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(Date Posted:12/18/2007 1:59 PM)

I'm a bit confused.  I'm not sure if this is a fraud or not.  I recieved a call from a relay operator #7775.  He gave his name and asked about the car I am selling.  I only had it listed in the local paper and on a military electronic billboard at the time.  It was a 408 area code which is the San Jose area.  He asked for me to reply by email with the cost of the car and details, which I did.  This is the reply I got:

  Hello Bethany,
        Thanks so much get back to me, The reason I am sending you this email is to make final reconfirmation of the 1997 Camero, which is okay by me,and also to let you know that payment will be by Certified Cashier's Check. In view of this I need you to email me any information that may be required to send the payment as I do not want to send the check to a wrong location let they get into the wrong hands and regarding the shipping,I have a company that takes care of the pickup of my consignments for me and ship to my destination in anywhere in the U.S.A, you do not worry about shipping, the company will send down a representative to arrange the sales documentation and the pick up from your end for onward transfer to my destination.
 
I also want to alert you on the fact that you will be receiving an overdraft check, which will cover the money for the pickup (pickup and shipping to the final destination) as well as the money to be paid to the company that will take care of the pickup and the documentation with you so please, as soon as you receive the check payment,go and cash it immediately,deduct the money that accrues to you, and send the balance to the Head Office of the company that handles the shipment via Western union.The check  will be in your name to make it easier for you to receive payment, please reconfirm your details one more time.I will give you the details of the company that will be shipping the 1997 Camero as soon as we seal this deal.Once the money is received by the agent , the shipping agent will contact you immediately to arrange the documentation as well as the pick up immediately so in view of the above, here are some of the details I will need for final issuance of the
certified check  to you.
 
(1) Full Name
(2) Mailing address, no p.o.box please
(3) your direct telephone number both home and cell.?
{4} Acceptance of my offer
(5} Final asking price
 
Once you get back to me with all the above, the Certified Cashier's Check will be issued out immediately and it will be sent to you .Hope to hear from you immediately.
 
Looking forward to your swift response.i will also be offering you extra $50 for keeping the 1997 Camero for me till the shipper comes for the pick up.I will be looking forward to your swift response.
 
Regards,
 
Rose Hout.

  It seemed a bit sketchy so I replied with this email:

Thanks for getting back to me so soon.  I do not have a physical mailing address only a PO Box.  If you would like to send it with signature confirmation that would be fine by me. I would be sure to get it that way.    Also, I am confused about shipping and why you are sending me an overdraft check.  Why not just send payment and then send a separate check to your company.  Also for security reasons I cannot do anything Western Union.  I also need to know who your shipping company is and the reasons for you purchasing the car.    I may sound a bit paranoid but have encountered many scams while selling on ebay.  I just need to cover all my angles.  Please respond as soon as possible.  I would be willing to accept the Certified Cashier's check for $3500 but would prefer you do so through my ebay site which is listed below.  You can buy it now and it will be reserved for you.  An automatic $500 deposit is required.  That will be deducted from the overall cost of the vehicle.    Thanks for your time.  I look forward to hearing from you soon.    Bethany

 

Not sure if this is legit.  Any comments on the subject?  I sent the email today so I have not had time to hear a response. 

 

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RE:Is this a fraud?
(Date Posted:12/18/2007 6:30 PM)

Most certainly is a fraud!
ANYTIME someone sends you a "overdraft" check for any reason whatsoever.. it's fraud.
The "certified check" they will send will be fake. If you try to cash it, your bank will let you, but later come back to you and demand their money back.. which by that time you'll have sent it to the "shipping company" AKA the scammer.
Always be cautious when selling things to someone who isn't local. Check sources, make sure you're not going to be scammed. You've already made a great choice to check here.. we deal with these scamming dirtbags on a daily basis at our job.

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RE:Is this a fraud?
(Date Posted:01/14/2008 12:05 AM)

thanks for the info. i was trying to be scammed for a puppy
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RE:Is this a fraud?
(Date Posted:01/17/2008 6:52 AM)

yes it is a scam  do not reply to them or answer there cals again
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RE:Is this a fraud?
(Date Posted:01/17/2008 6:57 AM)

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RE:Is this a fraud?
(Date Posted:01/17/2008 9:18 PM)

Reply to is_aimoo_guest (12/18/2007 11:59 AM).
if any one send you a  proposal from Cote d'ivoire please direct the information my office or if you have being a victim of scam and you have spent a lot of money for the proposal or you have sent money to Abidjan Cote d'ivoire we are ready to assist you to get back your money what you have to do is to call the director of our department international investigation unit abidjan cote d'ivoire you the director on +22506866482 the name of our director is Mr Donatus Pumer. his direct number is +22506866482

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HEY LOOK! ANOTHER SCAM!
This is a scam too. FYI.

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RE:Is this a fraud?
(Date Posted:03/14/2008 9:54 PM)

Doesn't anybody wonder why they always send the money through regular mail  but request their money be 'western unioned'?      I wish somebody would request that they send  the overdraft payment  western union  with the reason being that the only way payee can accept is through western union.    I was personally thinking about getting in touch with a 'lovescammer' and seeing if they could western union me about 50 dollars for gas and cigarettes and such    and if they did  that would prove their love for me and I would in return - having learned to trust them - send them 500 dollars my very next payday!!!
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