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(Date Posted:05/31/2006 10:02 PM)

I found these articles about the topic we all know sooooo well. The US addresses that the nigerians use to get their stolen goods shipped to them. They have the US addresses, and then have the packages re-shipped to nigeria. Well, I always thought that about 80 % of the people who were reshipping for them were in on the scam.... check out these articles.http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2005-07-11-mules-side-usat_x.htmFrom the article:Other U.S. agencies positioned to stop reshippers ? the U.S. Postal Service, U.S. Customs and the Secret Service ? must similarly win local support in Eastern Europe, South America and Asia, says Paul Luehr, a former federal cybercrimes prosecutor."The international aspect of these cases simply adds another complex level of cooperation that must be present," says Luehr, now general counsel at security consultant Stroz Friedberg.The U.S. agencies have just begun to coordinate cybercrime-fighting activities through groups such as the Internet Crime Complaint Center and the Merchant Risk Council, an industry group formed to fight online fraud.Meanwhile, reshipping rings continue to flourish. Mikhail Penkovsky, commercial director for security software maker Agnitum, based in St. Petersburg, Russia, says the typical Russian ring is made up of a half-dozen operatives in their 20s or 30s. Based on reports from contacts who move in criminal circles, Penkovsky estimates there are 50 to 100 rings based in Moscow, each receiving about $20,000 worth of stolen goods a month."That's almost $2 million a month from Moscow," he says. "We can imagine how much more is being done in St. Petersburg and other cities."As you have read, they have RINGS- people who actually know they're helping the scammers.... but I'll post further info about how some people get drawn in without realizing they are shipping stolen goods.

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(Date Posted:05/31/2006 10:18 PM)

Here is another article about the reshipping ring bust.  What I'm going to post is the highlights of the COMMENTS section.  Some of these comments are incredible- these are from people who have been scammed on dating sites- or have done reshipping.


This guy posts about his experience meeting the scammers on a dating site.  I'm taking bits and peices of it, as it is long. 


Since im very weak for black woman i have been having my searchlight on Africa.. Ghana and Nigeria.. Sweet jesus.. those women are gorgeous. I have been in contact with 10-15 of them now... and now its a hobby to collect conversations from them... they have all... without exeption been asking for... in one way or another.. for money. To begin with, when reading their profiles they have often staing homeadresses in London or USA or somewher else in Europe... studying.. running a small scale busines etc.. and when chatting.. (for some reason its ALWAYS Yahoo) they have in the most cases been stranded in Nigeria. .. mentioning "i have been diagnosed with malaria and cant afford the medicine", "my oncle is fasing been thrown out for not being able to pay rent" "my loved mother is ill and needs money for treatement" "i study lawschool on a church schoolarship and now i need to buy this expensive book in order to finish exams", "i have been robbed and are stranded in a camp in Nigeria desert run by church" etc. etc. etc. they never ask for much money.. just somewhere in the neighbourhood of 50 to 150 dollars. They all want to marry. Not one have asked me any question about whom i am. Not once. The goal is to, as soon as possible to get me hooked usually its a "sad thing that has just happen".. The record was 6 minutes worth of chatting..then she told me she had been robbed... The law student... i wastalking with here at saturday night.. and she revealed to me that she needed the expensive law book... written by a local dude in Ghana.. (i couldnt trace it) the same monday or she gets kicked from class.
The sad thing is that they truly beleive they are so damn smart.
I she doesnt ask YOU any question abbout who you are, what family you come from... what your work is.. the usual stuff you would expect to be curious abbout in a person.. and then the "sad news"... and you are expected to pay for it... then the scam is ongoing!


 



 

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(Date Posted:05/31/2006 10:24 PM)

I'm having trouble posting for some reason, so I have to keep replying  so that   I don't lose everything I posted. 


Here the guy posts a transcript of a chat or email from the woman..... listen to this shit:


2006-04-14 23:04:59 -

leticia

I hope you like my picture when Im wearing my red dress. I was quite nervous. I took some more pictures that day, hotter pictures, and Im going to show them to you if I feel that I can trust you. About myself.
My name isleticia I'm an afro-american girl from Los Angeles. Im 23 years old and I am working as a nurse. My dream is to become a film star. My whole life I have been over protected from my parents, but now I have my own flat (I share it with two nurse friends) and I am starting to become more open minded if you understand me.
If you want to continue email me you have to send me another picture of you. I want you to hold a sign with my name (just like I am doing here for you) And I want you to look sexy and smile in the camera. For example take your
shirt of and show me some muscles, you told me you are strong. Can you do that for me baby


 


** isn't the "hold the sign with my name on it" something that scam baiters do for fun?  I wonder why she's asking him to do it. 

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(Date Posted:05/31/2006 10:25 PM)

Now we get some guy who comments about being asked to reship for the scammer:


2006-04-12 23:32:37 -

david klein

I met a woman from ghana on line tonight--she did a lot of sweet talking and wanted to buy a computer in the US online, have it delivered to me --so that i could ship it to her. She was very nice but I felt like something was up. Please let me in on the possible scam.


http://www.crime-research.org/news/04.01.2005/877/comments/

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(Date Posted:05/31/2006 10:43 PM)

This comment from a "police officer":


2006-03-02 14:07:40 -

Det. Terry Fuller

As a detective for a municipal police department, I have investigated several of these scams. The most recent is a young lady who met the suspect on the AmericanSingles.com website. Just for your information: The FBI has informed me they will not accept this type case at this time due to a lack of cooperation by the Nigerian government with regards to extradition. If you have been scammed, make a report to the Internet Crime Complaint Center (ic3.gov) and alert your local law enforcement agency. I will be contacting the credit card companies and merchants associated with my case to arrange the return of the items already received.
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This from someone who had given out his/her address so the scammer "could send flowers".... I've talked to a victim that this happened to before.... anyway- here's what they say:


2006-01-18 15:31:12 - me
there is a reshipping scam being ran on yahoo... his name is leximoo2004 but he also has others with the same name. It is the love scam, and people are correct companies do not seem to care I have called several and the do not care because they have been paid. I talked to the police and I have done nothing wrong by receiving these items. I have cut all ties to this person, but and still afraid. He knows my address and I worry he may show up to claim these items. Follow your gut, if it doesnt feel right-it probably isnt. He asks to send you flowers and then starts to send you the other items.
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2005-11-04 06:07:58 -

JC

Now that i have these packages, i want to return them. But i yet don't have any proof of fraud and like you all here no-one i talk to gives a flyingpoop. I will try to call the merchants to see if these visa charges are legit . If they are then i can file a police report, until then any input or suggestions?
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2005-10-17 20:50:22 -

A.

I have met someone online who gained my trust. He recently started shipping computer packages to me at work. He told me they were for his business and wants me to repackage them and send them off to someone in Montreal, Canada. I dont know what to do. Am I responsible know for the merchandise..ie..payments. Im afraid that I will be charged and have to pay for all of this..what should i do. He says he is coming here..but im not too sure what to believe. Im scared.
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(Date Posted:06/01/2006 10:15 AM)

It's so "good" to read things from victims. I know that's worded poorly, but after spending 8 hours every weekday relaying conversations to people who are being scammed, it's so discouraging to come home and not even find anything from the victims online! Not to mention trying to warn the victims and them hang up on me, call me a liar, email me back with profanities, etc. It's just so nice to see these people honestly being open about what they're going through and seek advice/help. We need them to speak out more to really get this issue known!!!

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(Date Posted:06/03/2006 2:08 AM)

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It's so "good" to read things from victims. I know that's worded poorly, but after spending 8 hours every weekday relaying conversations to people who are being scammed, it's so discouraging to come home and not even find anything from the victims online! Not to mention trying to warn the victims and them hang up on me, call me a liar, email me back with profanities, etc. It's just so nice to see these people honestly being open about what they're going through and seek advice/help. We need them to speak out more to really get this issue known!!!


I'm having a really hard time finding Relay victims though.  I know that victims are victims, but I would like to find the ones that are related to our particular scam.  We can learn a lot about the process of how the nigerians work if we could find some people who went through it on that end.  I don't know about anyone else, but when I speak to a potential victim on the phone, I don't identify myself as the operator (even though it's obvious) and I don't talk to them very long.  I just warn them and get off the phone. 

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